{"id":7697,"date":"2016-03-25T22:08:35","date_gmt":"2016-03-26T03:08:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.openstack.org\/blog\/?p=7697"},"modified":"2016-03-25T22:08:35","modified_gmt":"2016-03-26T03:08:35","slug":"openstack-developer-mailing-list-digest-20160318-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.openstack.org\/blog\/openstack-developer-mailing-list-digest-20160318-2\/","title":{"rendered":"OpenStack Developer Mailing List Digest March 19-25"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1 class=\"western\">SuccessBot Says<\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li>redrobot: The Barbican API guides is now being published. <a href=\"http:\/\/developer.openstack.org\/api-guide\/key-manager\/\">[1]<\/a><\/li>\n<li>jroll: ironic 5.1.0 released as the basis for stable\/mitaka.<\/li>\n<li>ttx: All RC1s up for milestones-driven projects.<\/li>\n<li>zara: storyboard.openstack.org sends emails now!<\/li>\n<li>noggin143: my first bays running on CERN production cloud with Magnum.<\/li>\n<li>sdague: Grenade upgraded to testing stable\/liberty -&gt; stable\/mitaka and stable\/mitaka -&gt; master.<\/li>\n<li>Tell us yours via IRC with a message \u201c#success [insert success]\u201d.<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.openstack.org\/wiki\/Successes\">All<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h1 class=\"western\">PTL Election Conclusion and Results<\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li>Results are in, congrats to everyone! <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.openstack.org\/pipermail\/openstack-dev\/2016-March\/090422.html\">[2]<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Appointed PTLs by the TC for leaderless Projects <a href=\"http:\/\/eavesdrop.openstack.org\/meetings\/tc\/2016\/tc.2016-03-22-20.01.html\">[3]<\/a>:\n<ul>\n<li>EC-API: Alex Andrelevine<\/li>\n<li>Stable Branch Maintenance: Tony Breeds<\/li>\n<li>Winstackers: Claudiu Belu<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/lists.openstack.org\/pipermail\/openstack-dev\/2016-March\/090422.html\">Full thread<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h1 class=\"western\">Candidate Proposals for Technical Committee Positions Are Now Open<\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li>Important dates:\n<ul>\n<li>Nominations open: 2016-03-25 00:00 UTC<\/li>\n<li>Nominations close: 2016-03-31 23:59 UTC<\/li>\n<li>Election open: 2015-04-01 00:00 UTC<\/li>\n<li>Election close: 2015-04-07 23:59 UTC<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>More details on the election <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.openstack.org\/wiki\/TC_Elections_April_2016\">[4]<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/lists.openstack.org\/pipermail\/openstack-dev\/2016-March\/090421.html\">Full thread<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h1 class=\"western\">Release countdown for week R-1, Mar 27 &#8211; Apr 1<\/h1>\n<ul>\n<li>Focus:\n<ul>\n<li>Project teams following the cycle-with-milestone model should be testing their release Candidates.<\/li>\n<li>Project teams following the cycle-with-intermediary model should have at least one Mitaka release and determine if another release is needed before the end of the Mitaka cycle.<\/li>\n<li>All projects should be working on release-critical-bugs.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>General Notes:\n<ul>\n<li>Global-requirements list is still frozen.<\/li>\n<li>If you need to change a dependency for release-critical-bug fix, provide enough details in the change request.<\/li>\n<li>Master branches for all projects following cycle-with-milestone are open for Newton development work.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Release Actions:\n<ul>\n<li>Projects following cycle-with-intermediary without clear indication of cutting their final release:\n<ul>\n<li>bifrost<\/li>\n<li>magnum<\/li>\n<li>python-searchlightclient<\/li>\n<li>senlin-dashboard<\/li>\n<li>solum-infra-guestagent<\/li>\n<li>os-win<\/li>\n<li>cloudkitty<\/li>\n<li>tacker<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>These projects should contact the release team or submit a release request to the releases repository as soon as possible. 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